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More Evidence of McCain's Character

by ProgressiveDL, Sat Jun 14, 2008 at 04:56:19 PM EST

Since many people want to attack Obama for the company he keeps, let's talk about McCain.

He just canceled a fundraiser put on by Clayton Williams, a texas oil magnate who bundled more than $300,000 for McCain. This, after McCain somehow "just discovered" that Williams is a mean-spirited, sexist, asshole.

Back in 1990, Williams made the following comment about Democrat Ann Richards, his opponent (and the eventual winner) for Governor of Texas: He would "head her and hoof her and drag her through the dirt" like roping a cow.

Then, in an incredibly vile comment about rape, he said it was like bad weather: "If it's inevitable, just relax and enjoy it."

McCain somehow just found out about this? Impossible, considering it was HUGE news back then, running in the NY Times and other national newspapers. McCain said he has no intentions of returning the money bundled by Williams. Combined with his own comments on abortion and calling his own wife a trollop and a cunt, I feel confident calling McCain an asshole. He's a mean-spirited, insensitive person. Any progressive, liberal, feminist, religious person, or anyone with empathy should feel dirty voting for a guy like McCain.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/200 8/06/14/mccain-cancels-fundraiser-over-o ilmans-rape-comments/#more-7877

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Re: More Evidence of McCain's Character (1.00 / 0)

We are not being mean to Obama. We or I am trying to put into action exactly what he has called us to do i.e. no more politics as usual- hold ourselves to a higher standard.

We know the other side has its issue... but should we also follow that path on our side? I mean with all due respect, we would have elected politician as usual in this primary if that's was/is our goal.

don't be a sheep..

Rise / Repeat / But for god's sake don't spin!

by aliveandkickin on Sat Jun 14, 2008 at 05:04:28 PM EST

Re: More Evidence of McCain's Character (none / 0)

On all of these Obama and McCain agree. So who is the liberal or who is the conservative here?

Comments like this just do Senator Obama a disservice.

You claim to be above the fray, yet post comments like this.

I'm all for accountability, but the Republicans are our enemies. The fact that you would deliberately try to derail this diary just shows what side you're on.

Users who are excessively bashing the Democratic Party, or being Republican trolls, will be banned.

by Massadonious on Sat Jun 14, 2008 at 05:11:11 PM EST
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Re: More Evidence of McCain's Character (1.00 / 0)

Huh... You missed my point! The point made was how you set an agenda as to label people extreme liberal or extreme conservative, if both agree on it. Who died and said this agenda is liberal and this one is conservative when both push the same agenda.

It was nota hit job on Obama , in fact it was showing how ridiculous it is to call him extreme liberal

Let me help you further-- is achieving energy dependent policy a liberal or conservative agenda? None. Both want it.

I don't do very many cut and paste diaries as news scoops. I like to her challenges to my thinking.

Rise / Repeat / But for god's sake don't spin!

by aliveandkickin on Sat Jun 14, 2008 at 05:18:58 PM EST
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Re: More Evidence of McCain's Character (none / 0)

Your "point" is a strawman argument. If we eliminated everyone who ever received perks in office, we would eliminate everyone. We are trying to root out actual ethical concerns. Please do that instead of focusing on who got a point off of their mortgage rate. Every election cycle we see the same crap about lame stories made up to try and paint Democrats as corrupt. Either you are the most gullible man alive who has never paid attention to an election, or you are a troll.

"Tell me about your work ethic." "Well, I don't think ethnics do no work. I mean, that's they problem, really." "Overt racial prejudice. Impressive."

by vcalzone on Sat Jun 14, 2008 at 05:25:02 PM EST
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This isn't cut and paste (none / 0)

I assume you aren't referencing my diary as "cut and paste," but I wanted to clear it up in case you were.

As far as the whole "extreme liberal" thing, that has nothing to do with this diary. Feel free to discuss the character of Obama or McCain (or even Hillary).

by ProgressiveDL on Sat Jun 14, 2008 at 05:25:30 PM EST
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Re: This isn't cut and paste (1.00 / 0)

no I was referring to most diaries here. they tend to be ( and I have done it one time too) cut and paste from drudge/ or dailykos or huffingtonpost...

but on a average ( majority) i tend to write down my thoughts non gotcha style.

Rise / Repeat / But for god's sake don't spin!

by aliveandkickin on Sat Jun 14, 2008 at 05:44:09 PM EST
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Re: More Evidence of McCain's Character (1.00 / 0)

derailing you diary? I wrote in my original Post answering you very 1st sentence / claim/ accusation on your Diary...

Rise / Repeat / But for god's sake don't spin!

by aliveandkickin on Sat Jun 14, 2008 at 05:45:44 PM EST
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Re: More Evidence of McCain's Character (none / 0)

Still waiting for one kind word about the Democrats. And one bad word about the Republicans It's not coming.

"Tell me about your work ethic." "Well, I don't think ethnics do no work. I mean, that's they problem, really." "Overt racial prejudice. Impressive."

by vcalzone on Sat Jun 14, 2008 at 05:21:44 PM EST
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Re: More Evidence of McCain's Character (1.00 / 0)

Calzone--that entire last diary was making fun of the GOP and their "extreme liberal" tag.

but it would mean you would have to have the intellect to get it... thank you for following me diary to dairy/ comment to comment.

Rise / Repeat / But for god's sake don't spin!

by aliveandkickin on Sat Jun 14, 2008 at 05:23:58 PM EST
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Re: More Evidence of McCain's Character (none / 0)

No, it wasn't. It was trying to make the absurd argument that McCain and Obama have the same positions on issues. It was inherently deceptive, and in many cases, patently false. For example, John McCain, after railing against waterboarding and torture for years, voted FOR it this year. That would be a check YES for torture for McCain, and it's a sad statement on his character to boot.

I'll leave you alone to your silliness, though.

"Tell me about your work ethic." "Well, I don't think ethnics do no work. I mean, that's they problem, really." "Overt racial prejudice. Impressive."

by vcalzone on Sat Jun 14, 2008 at 05:28:25 PM EST
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Re: More Evidence of McCain's Character (none / 0)

Your diary, by the way, was also not as clever as you think it was. You cannot bring yourself above your total disdain for liberal philosophies, and you don't fool us.

"Tell me about your work ethic." "Well, I don't think ethnics do no work. I mean, that's they problem, really." "Overt racial prejudice. Impressive."

by vcalzone on Sat Jun 14, 2008 at 05:31:00 PM EST
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Re: More Evidence of McCain's Character (1.00 / 0)

When you are trained to be divisive you only see the ugly side in everything. View another comment by me that u missed...because you only look for the worst in people.

http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/6/14/1312 27/423

"I'm a part of Georgia democratic association (for a specific county). We had a meeting just this week talking about gearing up for this...

Here is what we are excited about. Georgia has a big AA population that can make GA go blue. Follow the logic - we think there are close to another million AA not registered in GA ( and they are registering in drones)Plus we had as in primaries not the full force of registered dems in the AA vote in primaries , that will do so in GE.

Honestly GA is looking purple..."

Rise / Repeat / But for god's sake don't spin!

by aliveandkickin on Sat Jun 14, 2008 at 05:42:13 PM EST
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Re: More Evidence of McCain's Character (none / 0)

Really? I'm from Georgia. What county?

"Tell me about your work ethic." "Well, I don't think ethnics do no work. I mean, that's they problem, really." "Overt racial prejudice. Impressive."

by vcalzone on Sat Jun 14, 2008 at 06:53:06 PM EST
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Re: More Evidence of McCain's Character (none / 0)

That entire diary meant to portray McCain as a moderate, in order to attract voters to him.

Have you ever attacked McCain on anything?

by Aris Katsaris on Sat Jun 14, 2008 at 06:42:33 PM EST
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Re: More Evidence of McCain's Character (none / 0)

The majority of your time spent in MyDD has so far been to praise McCain.

Most of the rest of it has been spent on casting aspersions on Democrats, including Obama -- you've even done a diary on the Larry Sinclair story. And a diary on the necessity for Democrats to check out the worth of Republican positions.

So far you seem to me as merely a McCain recruiter, "aliveandkicking". I've yet to see you attack a single one of McCain's positions. You've instead praised him as a moderate while attacking every Democrat you've mentioned yet so far -- all while claiming "I'll be voting for Obama, ofcourse".

I don't really believe you on that one. Can you tell us all those of McCain's positions that you disagree with? I seem to have missed them.

by Aris Katsaris on Sat Jun 14, 2008 at 06:40:47 PM EST
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That's sick. (none / 0)

McCain has no principles left.

Even John McCain lusts after teh engels.

by sricki on Sat Jun 14, 2008 at 05:33:17 PM EST

Re: That's sick. (none / 0)

It's sad, because I actually used to think of him as a halfway decent Republican. I disagreed with a lot of his policies, but I agreed with some, and I thought he was generally a good guy.

Now, I can't decide if he has always been an asshole, or if he is just playing a different role to get the nomination and support of Republicans. And I can't decide which option makes me more angry.

by ProgressiveDL on Sat Jun 14, 2008 at 05:35:59 PM EST
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That's exactly (none / 0)

what I've been thinking. I used to think of him as a good guy, despite being a Republican. I was really wrong.

Even John McCain lusts after teh engels.

by sricki on Sat Jun 14, 2008 at 08:35:48 PM EST
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Re: That's exactly (none / 0)

It's frustrating for me, because it makes me think that all Republicans must be a-holes (which is obviously not true). I'm very liberal/progressive on my political positions, and I'm not always a rational/sane arguer, but it is becoming easier and easier for me to just dislike Republicans on a personal level. It started with the ridiculous number of hypocritical scandals they have had (from corruption to affairs to drug use).

by ProgressiveDL on Sat Jun 14, 2008 at 11:03:43 PM EST
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I remember that guy...distinctly (none / 0)

That McCain had no idea Clayton Williams uttered these words is a LIE. Anybody that knows anything about Texas politics has heard of that quote. The fact is: Clayton Williams is an extremely rich and powerful Republican. McCain, like every other Republican, wanted money and support from Williams. And McCain, like most Republicans, did not care about the rape joke. But when asked about it in the media, McCain claimed he didn't know about it.

I would feel better if McCain just admitted he knew of that joke and said that Williams was a much better man than that horrible line. Hell, that's what most Republicans would say. But McCain pretended to be offended about it for the first time.

Note that McCain kept the money.

by elrod on Sat Jun 14, 2008 at 05:41:33 PM EST

Re: I remember that guy...distinctly (none / 0)

"I would feel better if McCain just admitted he knew of that joke and said that Williams was a much better man than that horrible line."

Hell, that's what Obama did about Rev. Wright! I think Obama may have had inklings of some of Wright's more incendiary views already, though it was almost certainly watered down by what Obama knew to be Wright's good ideas and good actions. Regardless, Obama stood up and said that Wright was a good man who had said some foolish and incorrect things. He suffered some attacks but it has had no real effect on his support. If McCain would just say that, this story would not matter much at all.

by ProgressiveDL on Sat Jun 14, 2008 at 11:06:59 PM EST
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You forgot the best part!!! (none / 0)

That $300,000 Williams raised for McCain? McCain isn't giving it back because it didn't come from Williams, it only came through him.

I realize they're hard on cash, but c'mon! Even if you don't want to give it back to the individuals themselves, how about a donation to a rape crisis center or something of the like? The money's really, really politically seedy as is.

by TCQuad on Sat Jun 14, 2008 at 07:28:33 PM EST

Re: You forgot the best part!!! (none / 0)

"McCain said he has no intentions of returning the money bundled by Williams."

Hey! I did get it. McCain ought to give it back and then tell all the people who donated to just donate it again through his website (assuming there actually is a button on the website to do that!).

by ProgressiveDL on Sat Jun 14, 2008 at 11:08:31 PM EST
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